tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post397541213480247721..comments2023-10-18T11:21:07.231-04:00Comments on What I Should Have Said: It is that time of the yearBethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06999741671175495307noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-74698379809224197362009-06-11T11:10:37.287-04:002009-06-11T11:10:37.287-04:00People can be such cowards! I wouldn't want on...People can be such cowards! I wouldn't want one of those mean spirited, bitter teachers teaching my kids. I agree with Hit40, keep your head held high and keep smiling. These people are wallowing in angry, don't let them bring you down! You rock!Dee-Zigns Handcrafted Jewelryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13366942622993117894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-18948313590451214962009-06-03T15:33:41.564-04:002009-06-03T15:33:41.564-04:00My mom has been a principal for three years at an ...My mom has been a principal for three years at an elementary school where she taught for 20 years. She was devastated when all the teachers, who she considered friends, turned on her. Administration is hard enough without unnecessarily nasty notes from staff. What these teachers wrote was cruel and unprofessional.Marahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14225939818950997678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-46001659591213271722009-06-03T00:15:19.322-04:002009-06-03T00:15:19.322-04:00Oh, and specifically in regard to this post, our d...Oh, and specifically in regard to this post, our district does the "anonymous survey" thing too. I treat it like the Olympic gymnastic judging. I disregard the top three and bottom three surveys. This eliminates the brown-nosers and the constant complainers. Then you're left with the ones who are truly trying to be constructive.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794712479594188124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-74841360117178547822009-06-03T00:12:45.519-04:002009-06-03T00:12:45.519-04:00Hi Beth,
Am I ever glad that I found your blog (v...Hi Beth,<br /><br />Am I ever glad that I found your blog (via your comment on Funny Girl, I think). I'm guessing from your post here that you're a school principal or A.P. I'm an elementary principal myself, so it's nice to come across a colleague here in blogland.<br /><br />If you get a chance, pop by my place. Lots of tales from the classroom and school site.<br /><br />Take care,<br />Chris<br />cdmauger.blogspot.comChrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794712479594188124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-23822817066051472252009-06-02T17:18:38.839-04:002009-06-02T17:18:38.839-04:00Commenting at the office while on hold (ignore) so...Commenting at the office while on hold (ignore) so I didn't read the above comments, hope I'm not repeating.....<br /><br />You are a brave woman to even ask for the comments. Just remember that many (too many) people only feel better if they running someone else down. You do a great job and do it with your whole heart. How can anyone complain about that! Screw 'em! :-)Smart Mouth Broadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12157189992200894945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-6484026412771896342009-06-01T22:35:56.893-04:002009-06-01T22:35:56.893-04:00I never say anything bad on these surveys. I figu...I never say anything bad on these surveys. I figure the admin would know who it was?? And... I agree if I am that upset about something - I should be women enough to say it to your face. AND - TRY TO FIX IT WITH YOU!!! <br /><br />Take it all with a grain of salt. Keep your head up and smile. Folks like to be cranky. Too much Jerry Springer - not enough Mr. Rogers on tv.Hit 40https://www.blogger.com/profile/18043350255090631652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-88492115233577884492009-06-01T19:31:12.437-04:002009-06-01T19:31:12.437-04:00Anonymity isn't always a good thing. My husban...Anonymity isn't always a good thing. My husband and I were talking yesterday about how it brings out the worst in some people- Sorry to hear this...Hope this is a better week...thanks again for voting...Carma Sezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01897159620671834070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-3247044601500022292009-06-01T18:28:36.438-04:002009-06-01T18:28:36.438-04:00WTF is a survey being done like this for? This is ...WTF is a survey being done like this for? This is the second time that I have actually been pissed, not at you, but for you! These are co-workers, aren't they? If you did this in my job, there would probably be bloodshed! I would not even participate in that shit! An open forum to trash people, F That!!!! Sounds like it's time to look for a new school,SCUMBAGS!!!!Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03158978490041796686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-81477187318119979192009-06-01T18:07:04.061-04:002009-06-01T18:07:04.061-04:00I think for the first teacher meeting that you hav...I think for the first teacher meeting that you have in the new year, you should bring that up about parents filling out a survey on the teachers, just so you can look at their reaction. Come to think of it, you should do one!H.K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10555156176113515138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-74428203320356530102009-06-01T17:58:42.932-04:002009-06-01T17:58:42.932-04:00Anonymity does seem to give license for people to ...Anonymity does seem to give license for people to be mean. I think anyone would be unhappy to read mean spirited things about them. Are you able to tell who wrote what at all?Debhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10128900022470769935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-41913380912887648122009-06-01T17:03:03.063-04:002009-06-01T17:03:03.063-04:00Kristina - I'm going to go read your post. Someti...Kristina - I'm going to go read your post. Sometimes it feels like we punish the people with the best attitudes. In my world, the good teachers with great attitudes get the worst kids because the kids need someone to build them up. The positive teacher is punished because of her great attitude. I'm pulling for you in your big move! I know you'll be great. And my attitude would totally improve with you on the scene.<br /><br />lakeviewer - I couldn't have said it better. You should hear the things some wrote about the Superintendent. They were just awful!<br /><br />Brenda Susan - Your idea is probably a good one. I wish they would only give us the comments that are suggestions and not just insults.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06999741671175495307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-42865684856207918882009-06-01T16:59:01.487-04:002009-06-01T16:59:01.487-04:00marathoner81 - I do wish they had suggestions. I'...marathoner81 - I do wish they had suggestions. I'd love some fresh ideas!<br /><br />Courtney - I love you, too!<br /><br />Erin - I question the thickness of my skin some days. Today was better. I have a better outlook. Thanks for your support.<br /><br />remember moments - You are right! Being angry can inspire all kinds of letter writing and survey filling out campaigns.<br /><br />followthatdog - I LOVE that suggestion to have a suggestion! Great idea. I'm going to give that thought to the powers that be.<br /><br />Jan - I'll give the comments to the Leadership Team when we meet in July. They can take care of making suggestions from there. <br /><br />Reinvent Dad - The teachers who stir up the most trouble in my school (with the pack mentality) would be better off if they would just get in their freakin room and teach. This is where I am going to have to get tougher.<br /><br />Michel - I'd love to have you as a guest speaker with a mcshame speech. That would be awesome! Can I pay you in Little Debbie?<br /><br />sun lover - You are right! And thanks for your encouragement. I feel better already!<br /><br />The things we carried - I love your last line - "Don't let them ruin who you are with what they have become." I'm going to write that in my calendar as a reminder to chin up.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06999741671175495307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-3885404833328642452009-06-01T16:49:40.621-04:002009-06-01T16:49:40.621-04:00Jane - You are right! People choose to be miserab...Jane - You are right! People choose to be miserable and there is nothing I can do about that. It just hurts when the teachers are so mean.<br /><br />dizzblnd - Actually, this survey was just from the teachers. The parents rarely right mean comments.<br /><br />Mrs. K - If only I could have the parents fill out an anonymous survey about specific teachers. But then again, I really wouldn't want them to be hurt.<br /><br />Mo - I am coping! And today was a great day. They can't get me down for long (the mean little shits).<br /><br />Lisa - Wow! $6000 for Kindergarten? I'll bet you have some high maintenance parents!<br /><br />Debbie - I don't take issue with surveys. We've gotten valuable information from parents and teachers. This particular survey was just for the teachers and there were a few who were just more or less name calling (you should read what they wrote about the superintendent). Suggestions are useful. Name calling is just mean.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06999741671175495307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-14627441449394120882009-06-01T13:38:35.484-04:002009-06-01T13:38:35.484-04:00So sorry, not a fun way to end a loooong year! Thi...So sorry, not a fun way to end a loooong year! This may sound like a head-in-the-sand approach, but is there any way you can NOT read them? Or have someone else cull the usefull ones out for you before hand?Brenda Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01842228644349167297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-28872032708408569842009-06-01T13:19:03.927-04:002009-06-01T13:19:03.927-04:00The problem is with the survey. People ought to e...The problem is with the survey. People ought to evaluate the operations they are responsible for to identify ways to do the job better. It's easy to point fingers to someone elseRosaria Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133147851332084180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-55565826337892509162009-06-01T13:05:31.298-04:002009-06-01T13:05:31.298-04:00Beth, I can relate to this post more than you know...Beth, I can relate to this post more than you know!<br /><br />I posted about moving to a new office today. What I didn't say is that I've been asked to go into a shift that has been notoriously negative and gossipy, and basically fix it and turn it around.<br /><br />There's already a rumor going around that I am so mad about going up there and I hate it. Which just isn't true. I'm sad, and would rather stay where I am, but I have a positive attitude, and it will be a good opportunity.<br /><br />I've learned there are some nasty, mean, negative people out there, and they have to make everyone else miserable.Kristina P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16144488639100871226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-90940876566377722562009-06-01T12:41:44.683-04:002009-06-01T12:41:44.683-04:00I really believe with criticism a few positives so...I really believe with criticism a few positives solutions should be added to the mix. Sometimes it seems negative, critical people feed like minded people and they find good bed fellows among one another! How draining to have to be there. I feel bad for the students even more. Can't imagine the joy of being in a class there.<br /><br />Hang in there! I am so sorry to hear you cried yourself to sleep! Don't let them ruin who you are with what they have become.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-22792075151339791792009-06-01T11:40:09.482-04:002009-06-01T11:40:09.482-04:00The hateful ones always do stick out don't they? ...The hateful ones always do stick out don't they? It makes me sad to hear you feel defeated. What a horrible way to start the summer off...Stay strong for we in blogland know that you work your ass off to provide only the best for all the teachers and students. I believe you are amazing and filled with nothing but the best intentions for your school. <br /><br />Even those with the thickest of skin gets burned ever so often. The pain stings and often knocks the breathe out of you, but as the days pass so does the hurt. Have that hubby whip up something filled with nothing but high calories and love to drown your sorrow away! <br /><br />In the mean time...stay strong and chin up...and know that you are appreciated. :)sun loverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08177142568167014934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-73848627633982736142009-06-01T11:31:24.902-04:002009-06-01T11:31:24.902-04:00okay, so everyone hogged all the good advice (whic...okay, so everyone hogged all the good advice (which I totally would have thought of...trust me) but I would just like to say that THOSE PEOPLE SUCK! <br /><br />You obviously love your job and are doing your best. AND, everyone knows you never give a complaint unless you can be part of the solution or at least offer to help figure it out. That's rude, immature and ridiculous. <br /><br />Do you want me to come give them a lecture. I'm seriously good at bitchy-mcshameing speechesMichelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15648306344915919991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-75203696550333326412009-06-01T11:00:37.221-04:002009-06-01T11:00:37.221-04:00I wholeheartedly agree that anonymous surveys ofte...I wholeheartedly agree that anonymous surveys often do more harm than good (to the person being surveyed). I'm sorry you have to deal with so many whiners and complainers who unfortunately appear to be breeding at a much faster clip than rational level-headed human beings that can cite constructively and objectively paths to improve the well being of the students and procedures at your school.<br /><br />I agree with other comments that this annual survey is not helping and you should perhaps meet with each teacher one on one at the end of the year (maybe you already do this) to discuss brass tacks, not BS. Maybe you could slowly eliminate those with a bad attitude! We have so many teachers (mostly young) here in California that would love an opportunity to teach, but get pushed aside by layoffs due to seniority.<br /><br />Oh boy, ask my wife about surveys...hates 'em because the ones that take the "time" to fill them out generally have too much "time" on their hands...don't get me started.<br /><br />I hope you work everything out.Reinvent Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12357054681296228882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-85119674278397208202009-06-01T10:45:14.657-04:002009-06-01T10:45:14.657-04:00Jesus - some people.
I like your idea about an an...Jesus - some people.<br /><br />I like your idea about an anonymous survey of the teachers by the parents, but since I'm assuming that's out of the question, is it possible to have a meeting when the teachers get back in which you read some of the nasty things and ask your staff, calmly and sincerely, how they are supposed to be helpful? You never know - something positive could come out that.Janhttp://www.janssushibar.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-81950404744327286972009-06-01T10:12:39.120-04:002009-06-01T10:12:39.120-04:00Is it possible for the survey to be modified to in...Is it possible for the survey to be modified to include a "Do you have a proposal to solve this problem?" after each field for comments. That kind of shit just pisses me off. I'm sorry you have to deal with it. What does the district expect you to do with the information? Maybe you can have a teacher work day to help "brainstorm" solutions to the bitchy comments. Let them stew in a conference room for a day or two, maybe they'll rethink the shit next year. If not, try two work days and include some kind of required skits or roleplaying.followthatdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02073521142861511678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-82445103515977299102009-06-01T10:02:43.173-04:002009-06-01T10:02:43.173-04:00That sucks!! Typically though the people who do th...That sucks!! Typically though the people who do those surveys are often the ones who have something to complain about - rarely are there positive remarks on surveys etc. <br /><br />You should initiate a parent-teacher survey next school year. LOL!!*krystyn*https://www.blogger.com/profile/08611182339906918223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-86755153750824587152009-06-01T09:09:18.663-04:002009-06-01T09:09:18.663-04:00Oh, Beth. I am so sorry they aren't being grownups...Oh, Beth. I am so sorry they aren't being grownups. You are a better woman than I for taking on the job in the first place. I know I couldn't do it. People have asked if I will go in that direction, and while I'd like some of it - I know I don't have thick enough skin. <br /><br />Hang in there - thinking of you this week. <br /><br />xxxxxooooocheatymoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06328903955238115971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925661918941360037.post-44014379552330366772009-06-01T08:53:42.595-04:002009-06-01T08:53:42.595-04:00Well that just sucks! I hope you feel better. Fort...Well that just sucks! I hope you feel better. Fortunately I know just how great you really are!<br /><br />Love you, CourtneyCourtneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14488960640638671768noreply@blogger.com